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First Doctor Who 60th Anniversary Special

The First Doctor Who 60th Anniversary Special was awesome!

First, I must say that I'm very cautious about RTD's return, because I saw him do the Bury Your Gays trope in various shows, to the point that I've been avoiding his work for a long time. I'm ready to give him a chance because I don't want to give up on Doctor Who, but he'd better not do that again.

Now, he did a great job with this special. Of course, I especially loved that Donna has a trans daughter, played by trans actress Yasmin Finney (Elle in Heartstopper). Also, UNIT's wheelchair-using Scientific Adviser Shirley Anne Bingham is played by wheelchair-using actress Ruth Madeley. And damn, she has so much positive energy! :D

Plotwise, it was also very good. His episodes tended to be too kitsch for my taste, but not this special.
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[personal profile] zoefruitcake 2023-11-26 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought there were a few cringy moments but on the whole, it was pretty good.
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[personal profile] beccadg 2023-11-26 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
First, I must say that I'm very cautious about RTD's return, because I saw him do the Bury Your Gays trope in various shows, to the point that I've been avoiding his work for a long time.

I, sadly, was unaware of his track record until Torchwood: Children of Earth, and will never entirely forgive him for that, but am not ready to give up on Doctor Who.

I'm ready to give him a chance because I don't want to give up on Doctor Who, but he'd better not do that again.

Exactly.

Also, UNIT's wheelchair-using Scientific Adviser Shirley Anne Bingham is played by wheelchair-using actress Ruth Madeley. And damn, she has so much positive energy! :D

It's great to hear the actress is a wheelchair-using actress! Her character was my favorite new character in the special!! (I recognized Yasmin Finney from Heartstopper.)
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[personal profile] meathiel 2023-11-26 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved the episode as well. As I'm a Ten girl, it wasn't very surprising, though.

I've not always liked RTD's stuff ... but this was good.
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[personal profile] rogueslayer452 2023-11-26 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have any plans on watching RTD's return to DW, similarly for the same reasons but also his, well, other issues (his racism, the treatment of Martha and Mickey in particular, and his mistreatment of Christopher Eccleston very early on, his writing can be a major hit or miss for me but that's the same with any writer/showrunner for DW), but I'm glad that you found the anniversary special enjoyable.
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[personal profile] trobadora 2023-11-26 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I really enjoyed Rose and Shirley! Fabulous new characters, and perfectly cast. :D
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[personal profile] prowler_pilot 2023-11-26 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved the special! I'm so excited about the next episodes.
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[personal profile] selenak 2023-11-26 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw him do the Bury Your Gays trope in various shows, to the point that I've been avoiding his work for a long time.

Does he, though? The „Bury Your Gays“ trope as I understand it refers to killing off gay characters in stories where a) the straight characters stay alive, b) in service of the story of the straight characters, and c) to the point that there are no more gay characters in the story. And I can‘t think of an example of these criteria fit. The original Queer as Folk has a minor character who dies - in an ensemble where everyone is gay, so I don‘t see how this fits the trope. It’s a Sin is a miniseries explicitly dealing with AIDS in the 1980s, that’s what it’s about, so it’s a given not everyone survives, since the survivor grief and the way people deal and don’t deal with it in the gay community, and how are very much part of the story. Again, most of the characters in the story are gay, including the survivors. (And btw, RTD being a gay man who grew up in the midst of the AIDS crisis when he’d see older friends die left right and center while straight society for a long time refuses to admit this is happening, and ostracizes the sick a lot about RTD.) An English Scandal (based on a real life event in the 1970s) has its gay characters all survive.

Moving to the Whoverse, I can‘t remember a gay character dying in DW. (Or Sarah Jane Adventures, but the later is protected by the explicitly meant for children format.) Torchwood kills off Suzie, Owen and Tosh before it kills off Ianto, and while all Tosh and Owen are seen with a member of the same sex at least once during the show, I‘d still say they come across as primarily heterosexually inclined. (Suzie dies in the pilot and never gets screentime to explore her sexuality during her post mortem comeback.) And Ianto isn‘t the last one to die, either - in Children of Earth itself, Jack‘s grandson, and in Miracle Day, it‘s a straight character who bites the dust. (And even in the flashbacks where an m/m relationship of Jack‘s. Is referenced, that guy does not die.

What I‘m trying to get at: if it‘s an RTD show, and it‘s not exclusively aimed at kids or focused on a real life event (which isn‘t AIDS), chances are at least one character will die, true enough. But independent from sexual orientation. The man is just deeply interested in exploring how one lives with death, I think, and again, if you are gay and figured out you‘re gay at a time when AIDS still is a death sentence more often than not, I am not surprised.

Not to say his writing shouldn‘t be critisized! Or that he doesn‘t reuse some tropes a lot. But not, imo, this one.
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[personal profile] corvidology 2023-11-26 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I could never forgive what happened to Donna so I LOVED this! \o/
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[personal profile] qwentoozla 2023-11-26 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a big fan of RTD either, but thought this episode was pretty enjoyable overall.
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[personal profile] haebin 2023-11-28 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
UNIT's wheelchair-using Scientific Adviser Shirley Anne Bingham is played by wheelchair-using actress Ruth Madeley.
This is SO important! The industry should use people with disabilities in roles much more often. ♥